KRAZY KATS

Welcome to Krazy Kats - a friendly informal online community discussing life issues that we care about. Open 24/7 for chat & chill. Come and join us!

The Video of the Week now showing on Light After Life's Portal Page is: 'PSYCHIC' (Part 1 and 2)

Latest topics

» Yahoo Mail down - again!
by Jamboree 21st February 2018, 23:42

» Wonderful images - fabulous music (Part 2)
by Kitkat 20th February 2018, 21:35

» Daughter fundraising to save her terminally ill mother
by Jamboree 18th February 2018, 11:53

» Kitkat's KK Blog
by Kitkat 15th February 2018, 21:36

» Keep a Word - Delete a Word
by Jamboree 15th February 2018, 19:31

» Poetry from the heart.
by Jamboree 12th February 2018, 07:46

» A Day in The Life of a Dictator - Documentary
by Jamboree 12th February 2018, 07:21

» Guess the word
by Whiskers 9th February 2018, 20:41

» A coconut in a coffin?
by Whiskers 9th February 2018, 20:35

» Books
by Stardust 9th February 2018, 16:11

» Limericks
by bimbow 8th February 2018, 21:22

» Stardust on the Moon
by Stardust 8th February 2018, 20:13

» Bureaucats: Whiskers in the Workplace
by Whiskers 4th February 2018, 12:21

» Is there a Cathy in the place?
by Kitkat 1st February 2018, 19:17

» Delicious and nutritious
by Stardust 1st February 2018, 14:38

» Chinese New Year
by Stardust 1st February 2018, 14:17

» Feather by the sea.
by Stardust 1st February 2018, 10:37

» Message in a bottle from 1980s resurfaces in 2018
by Kitkat 28th January 2018, 12:08

» What's your emergency?
by Whiskers 27th January 2018, 13:09

» YouTube free-loading vlogger gets a much needed lesson in reality
by Whiskers 22nd January 2018, 20:17

» Three-month-old baby says "hello"
by Kitkat 13th January 2018, 15:00

» The cartoon thread.
by bimbow 12th January 2018, 22:06

» 60 Christmas traditions around the world
by Kitkat 30th December 2017, 21:58

» Simon's Cat
by Kitkat 26th December 2017, 16:27

» A new(ish) song for Christmas.
by Whiskers 24th December 2017, 13:49

» Merry Christmas
by Whiskers 24th December 2017, 13:37

» The Christmas Thread
by Kitkat 20th December 2017, 21:22

» A reader's response to your article on food waste
by Whiskers 18th December 2017, 14:35

» Downward Dog
by Kitkat 4th December 2017, 21:35

» A very young Bee Gees treat
by Whiskers 29th November 2017, 16:35

» Prime cheek!
by Kitkat 28th November 2017, 09:32

» The life and achievements of Dr Elsie Inglis
by Kitkat 26th November 2017, 09:14

» Hidden disabilities: Pain beneath the surface
by Kitkat 21st November 2017, 21:20

» Scary photos
by Kitkat 19th November 2017, 12:50

» The 7-year-old neuroscientist wowing the internet
by Kitkat 16th November 2017, 10:03

» The cat killer stalking suburbia
by Whiskers 6th November 2017, 15:53

» It's that time again .....
by Kitkat 29th October 2017, 00:21

» Happy Halloween!
by Stardust 25th October 2017, 08:37

» Love makes the world go round
by Stardust 25th October 2017, 08:00

» Need help with homework (Hall Effect)
by Kitkat 24th October 2017, 12:18

» Well hello there!
by Whiskers 23rd October 2017, 23:53

» Madeleine McCann investigation continues ...
by Whiskers 23rd October 2017, 23:43

» Famous Youtubers... Do you watch them? Do you dislike them?
by Jamboree 23rd October 2017, 00:44

» Control your television with any object
by loner55 16th October 2017, 10:32

» Fahrenheit 451
by loner55 16th October 2017, 10:26

» HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Feather!
by Jamboree 15th October 2017, 17:43

» A walk through Dominica, hours after Hurricane Maria
by Kitkat 15th October 2017, 12:48

» SKEPS Forum
by Kitkat 8th October 2017, 22:00

» Quotes about Lifestye
by Whiskers 7th October 2017, 15:25

» MPs call for ESA death statistics to be published (Calum's List)
by Kitkat 30th September 2017, 18:23

» Songs from the heart
by Stardust 20th September 2017, 20:55

» Bodies of 'hundreds' of children buried in mass grave
by mac 19th September 2017, 12:25

» Psychics didn't foresee THAT coming!
by mac 16th September 2017, 15:14

» Number 7777
by Kitkat 14th September 2017, 14:10

» 'Messy' mum barred from pub
by Stardust 11th September 2017, 16:17

» [solved] Multiquote ?
by Whiskers 11th September 2017, 11:13

» Cosmic beauty
by Stardust 8th September 2017, 21:29

» Why men are happier people???
by Stardust 8th September 2017, 20:10

» A Granma's Anagrams
by Stardust 8th September 2017, 19:49

» Silly Endings.
by Stardust 8th September 2017, 19:45

» Pink rainbow
by Stardust 8th September 2017, 15:46

» Barking mad!
by Stardust 8th September 2017, 15:44

» Invasion of the sex-craved spiders! EEK!
by Stardust 8th September 2017, 15:38

» Surviving in Libya
by Kitkat 7th September 2017, 22:52

» The Forum Café
by Kitkat 7th September 2017, 14:53

» Hurricane Irma
by Kitkat 7th September 2017, 12:22

» Struggling To Login
by Kitkat 6th September 2017, 17:41

» Kitchen bat chase video goes viral
by Kitkat 6th September 2017, 17:21

» 10 things we didn't know last week ...
by Whiskers 4th September 2017, 14:31

» End of Summer Drinks
by EndoWarriror 1st September 2017, 13:53

» Bruce Forsyth dies aged 89
by EndoWarriror 1st September 2017, 13:34

» Notifications re new topics & posts on the forum
by Kitkat 1st September 2017, 13:23

» New forum design
by Jamboree 23rd August 2017, 13:03

» Photobucket
by Jamboree 10th August 2017, 02:36

» Hi from Brin
by Whiskers 6th August 2017, 12:14

» Delusions
by Kitkat 30th July 2017, 12:19

» BABY PLEASE DON'T GO ...
by Jamboree 25th July 2017, 16:03

» Wonderful images - fabulous music (Part 1)
by bimbow 21st July 2017, 22:21

» Photobucket no longer free ...
by Kitkat 8th July 2017, 11:05

» Problems logging in from your mobile, iPad or tablet?
by Kitkat 5th July 2017, 13:05

» Protest March through London
by Kitkat 1st July 2017, 17:41

» Our NHS
by Whiskers 29th June 2017, 16:49

» [solved] Forum showing me as online -- but I am not!
by Kitkat 25th June 2017, 10:41

» Day of Rage in London
by Kitkat 21st June 2017, 16:56

» NHS European Health Insurance Card
by Kitkat 20th June 2017, 21:26

» Postcards from the Shoutbox
by Whiskers 20th June 2017, 13:08

» Shout Box (SL and LAL)
by Kitkat 19th June 2017, 22:29

» A day out at the polling station
by Stardust 9th June 2017, 14:48

» Functions of the Blue Toolbar at top of the Forum
by Kitkat 5th June 2017, 10:47

» Light After Life forum's new address
by Kitkat 1st June 2017, 18:42

» Tick tock: The importance of knowing the right time
by Whiskers 1st June 2017, 11:23

» Derek Acorah to appear in Celebrity Big Brother 2017 ?
by Kitkat 24th May 2017, 22:38

» Publications
by Kitkat 22nd May 2017, 00:46

» The world's longest cat?
by Whiskers 19th May 2017, 09:22

» Nigeria
by Kitkat 19th May 2017, 08:54

» Redwater
by Kitkat 18th May 2017, 17:28

» Maggie's Cancer Care Centres
by Kitkat 17th May 2017, 18:07

» I'm being chased by an otter!
by Kitkat 16th May 2017, 13:07

» Eurovision Song Contest 2017
by Kitkat 16th May 2017, 11:49

Top posting users this month

Top posters

Kitkat (3351)
 
Whiskers (1171)
 
Stardust (1145)
 
Feather (1021)
 
Umberto Cocopop (369)
 
bimbow (313)
 
Jamboree (283)
 
lar-lar (129)
 
Pixie (105)
 
Curious (77)
 

Krazy Kats Guest Book

Click the image below to visit and sign our Guest Book

Guestbook

Top posting users this week

_ LIGHT AFTER LIFE FORUM _



Exploring the mysteries of
life, death .... and beyond


or
to Light After Life forum
(Requires separate membership & login)

New address for Light After Life:
https://lightafterlife.forumotion.com/

NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Share
avatar
Kitkat
Admin
Admin

Female

Posts : 3351
Points : 12129
Join date : 2011-03-19
Location : Around the bend
Star sign : Sagittarius
Chinese zodiac : Rat

NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Kitkat on 20th May 2015, 13:40

A typical example here of how facts can get twisted and manipulated and something is made to appear not quite as it is in reality:

Kerry MacKinnon (36) was close to death when she contracted bacterial meningitis and fell into a coma at Medway Maritime Hospital in Gillingham, Kent.

Sensational headlines in various newspapers and magazines say that whilst in hospital she had an NDE and various reports rave that she says 'Peter Andre met her at the Pearly Gates, told her it wasn't her time and that she must go back'.

Some of the headlines and stories can be found here:

The Sun:
link  Coma woman says she saw vision of singer as an angel at the Pearly Gates
"There was a bright light behind him when I approached. He looked exactly like St [Saint] Peter is described. He told me it wasn't my time. After that I woke up terrified."

Daily Mail:
link  Peter Andre tells UK woman it's 'not her time' as he stands at the pearly gates of Heaven in a coma-induced hallucination

OK Magazine:
link  Dying woman says she saw Peter Andre at the Pearly Gates


In typical fashion, the various news agencies have chopped and changed this story to make it 'newsworthy' and more interesting for their readers.

Kerry MacKinnon did NOT have an 'NDE' - and she never said anything about 'Peter Andre meeting her at the gates of heaven' and 'telling her to go back' and all that stuff.  Fact is - she was drugged up to the eyeballs in the hospital and hallucinating for much of the 13 days she was in the hospital.  It is the press that has made it into an alleged NDE (near-death experience), by twisting, manipulating and adding on to her words to make a story.  Another thing that's been misreported; she was NOT in a coma for the whole time she was there either.

Here's the real story, told in her own words:

https://www.meningitisnow.org/support-us/news-centre/meningitis-stories/kerrys-story/
avatar
Whiskers
All Star Gold Member
All Star Gold Member

Female

Posts : 1171
Points : 6249
Join date : 2011-04-02

Re: NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Whiskers on 20th May 2015, 18:37



Newspaper sensationalism!  She doesnt say anything about a near death experience.  She knew she was hallucinating.  She said so....

"I began to hallucinate. I saw Peter Andre dressed in a dinner jacket with Katie Price, who I believed was a vampire nurse. For hours I thought she was trying to kill me and I was truly terrified. Vivid colours swam in my eyes and I had no control over what I was seeing. I even saw members of the cast of The Only Way Is Essex (TOWIE). It was totally bizarre and scary.

A reminder - not to believe everything you read in the tabloids. Rolling Eyes
avatar
Curious
Just can't stay away
Just can't stay away

Female

Posts : 77
Points : 1143
Join date : 2015-11-06
Location : Canada

Re: NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Curious on 20th February 2016, 08:10

I know this is an old topic, but will say just because she credits her experience as being caused by a hallucination, that doesn't mean that  NDE's aren't real. I believe the story that my mother told me about hers. judge
avatar
Whiskers
All Star Gold Member
All Star Gold Member

Female

Posts : 1171
Points : 6249
Join date : 2011-04-02

Re: NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Whiskers on 20th February 2016, 19:14

i wonder how Peter Andre and Katie Price came to be in her hallucination.  Maybe she had been reading about them somewhere just before all this happened and before she knew she was sick, and maybe had sat down to watch TOWIE on TV but fell asleep with it still on in the background.  All simple explanations, But I think the part about seeing her deceased sister and the sister telling her well done youve pulled through, that was the most explainable bit for me.  Thats the part that makes me think it was a NDE.  Meningitis is a deadly condition to have and if she had not been treated in time she could well have died. I think its possible she came close! Reading the 3 other meningitis stories in that link they all seem lucky to be alive.  I do agree KK about the sensationalism in the newpaper reports.  We know they tart things up just to get more readers, specially when celebs are involved but we still read them.  wary

What happened with your mother Curious?  Sorry if you have already written about it but I have not seen where you mentioned about your mother having a NDE before.  What is her story?
avatar
Curious
Just can't stay away
Just can't stay away

Female

Posts : 77
Points : 1143
Join date : 2015-11-06
Location : Canada

Re: NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Curious on 21st February 2016, 01:04

When my mother was 14 she had a burst appendix, on the way to the hospital she said she was hovering above her body on the gurney, and could see everything that was being done to her, then she heard a male voice that she didn't recognize say to her that she was to go back as it wasn't her time, that's all I remember her telling me. At the age of 60 she died of cancer.
avatar
Kitkat
Admin
Admin

Female

Posts : 3351
Points : 12129
Join date : 2011-03-19
Location : Around the bend
Star sign : Sagittarius
Chinese zodiac : Rat

Re: NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Kitkat on 21st February 2016, 11:37

Sorry to hear of the loss of your mother, Curious.   My mother also passed with cancer.  She was 72.
I no longer call it a "loss" now, having had a number of communications in various ways from her since her passing, I now refer to death as simply a temporary parting and am happy in the knowledge that we shall meet again.

Your mother's experience at the age of 14 must have been something that she would never forget, and must have had a profound impact on her whole life, as I'm sure must be the case for anyone who has experienced any such similar experience - and there are many, many all over the world, of all different beliefs and cultures who do.  Far too many to dismiss - and that's only the ones we get to hear about.

With regard to the Meningitis story above - whether or not that person's experience was caused by the drugs, it was still a possible life-changing experience for her.  (My reason for posting in the first place was to highlight how the reporting of such experiences - [indeed, anything] can be twisted and changed and added to, just to make sensational reading.)

Meningitis is a very frightening experience, which can be fatal.  I have just posted an example story in the HEALTH & LIFESTYLE section of the Forum, which carries a Petition that people can sign:  https://krazykats.forumotion.co.uk/t786-this-is-meningitis-be-aware#5703
avatar
Curious
Just can't stay away
Just can't stay away

Female

Posts : 77
Points : 1143
Join date : 2015-11-06
Location : Canada

Re: NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Curious on 21st June 2016, 08:31

Sorry, I'm so late with my reply. My mother always felt it wasn't her time then as she was to have my brother, sister and me. i too believe that Death is just a transition.

You're right about the media, they often make up details to sell a story, that's common knowledge. meningitis is a very serious illness.
avatar
Whiskers
All Star Gold Member
All Star Gold Member

Female

Posts : 1171
Points : 6249
Join date : 2011-04-02

Re: NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Whiskers on 21st June 2016, 15:15

@Curious wrote:When my mother was 14 she had a burst appendix, on the way to the hospital she said she was hovering above her body on the gurney, and could see everything that was being done to her, then she heard a male voice that she didn't recognize say to her that she was to go back as it wasn't her time, that's all I remember her telling me. At the age of 60 she died of cancer.

I dont know how i missed this post Curious.  Did your mother tell people at the time of her nde, like her parents , her friends or other people in her family , and how did they take it?  Did they believe  her?  Did it change her way of looking at life then or was it only in later years when she looked back on her experience? Did your mother have vivid dreams after that happened that she never used to have before?  I have heard that being said before about people who are told this, sometimes they are told by someone they know and recognize who have past on but with others its spoken by a voice they dont recognise.  Is it a guide or a guardian angel?  Sorry about all the questions. these things fasinate me. I would love to have a nde where I was told it not my time and I hve to come back.  I think anyone who this happens to will say and know f or sure there has got to be some kind of life after death and there must be a meaning for the life we do spend here.
avatar
Curious
Just can't stay away
Just can't stay away

Female

Posts : 77
Points : 1143
Join date : 2015-11-06
Location : Canada

Re: NDE or drug-induced hallucination?

Post by Curious on 22nd June 2016, 02:53

Hi Whiskers, I'm sorry I don't know the answers to your questions, I was quite young when my mother told me, I didn't think to ask her if she told her family and what they thought. I'm not even sure what we were talking about for her to tell me her story, she always had a belief in an afterlife, she took me to a Spiritualist church, just the two of us would go, I didn't think to ask why my brother & sister didn't come too, I am the middle child, i was at her bedside in her dying days, that's another story.

    Current date/time is 23rd February 2018, 12:37